Bewerbungsform für Medizinstudium in Schottland

[Sarah0201]

HI Bill!!

I have troubles with all those course codes. What is exactly the difference between A100, A103, A 104, A101 and A106? Because at the homepage od Dundee the offer once A100 and A104( which is the premedical year entry) Which one is the right one for me( because I want to start studying there)? And besides that the short form of the course title differs. In St. Andrews it is Bsc/McSc and at all the other as for example Glasgow, Dundee, Aberdeen etc it is MB/ChB. Do you know the difference?

And I Think besides those problems the biggest will be filling out page 2 with all the grades. I have no clue how this works. What is an Awarding body? I mean I am graduating in june so I don't really know the results until that month. Do i have to fill in my grades from the 12th grade or even 11th? Section 7A tells me I have to enter the Qualifications which are completed but what about section 7B Do i have to enter something in here? How am I suppose to turn in my aplication on the 15th october 2003 when I just started to that time the 12th grade and I didn't know any of my grades????

I hope you can answer all those questions!! You help me a lot, thanks for that!!

P.s Where are you studying??

Bye Sarah

[billster]

Hello Sarah!

Have you read through the advice section for international students on the UCAS website? Here: http://ucas.com/studyuk/index.html

The UCAS form can be quite confusing!

The advice from the UCAS 'How to Apply' 2004 Handbook (given to us in the UK by our schools/colleges) says for non-UK qualifications:

"You should check your qualifications with the Admissions Offices at the universities you want to apply to before filling in your application form. Each one will decide whether or not your qualifications meet or could meet their entry requirments for the course you are interested in. When you fill in your application form you should give full details of all your qualifications, including exams you took when you left school, exams you took to get into higher education, vocational exams and any other qualifications or awards. Please do not try to give a UK equivalent.

You must give the full title of the exam board or awarding body, the correct title of the exam, details of any units that make up your qualification, and your final overall marks or grades.

If the colum headings are not appropriate for you, ignore them and write the following information in the section.

- The date when you completed the qualification (Section 7A); or, when you will complete it (Section 7B);

- The exact overall title of the qualification, for example:
- International Baccalaureate;
- Diplome de fin d'Etudes Secondaires;
- Diploma di Maturita Scientifica; etc

- The awarding body;

- The language used for teaching the qualification.

List the individual subjects you have taken, and in the results column, give the grade or mark you achieved for each subject (and the overall result for the qualification is appropriate).

If your first language is not English, but your qualifications were completely or partly assessed in English, please make this clear. You should also give details or any English language tests you have taken or plan to take, giving dates, titles and any syllbabus code.

Send a copy of all transcripts, certificates or other proof of your qualifications to each university or college you apply to, giving the title and code number of the course and your UCAS application number. DO NOT SEND US ANY QUALIFICATION PAPERS."

--- This is rather a large amount of information! In your case i believe you'd need the exact overall title of the qualification, which would be 'Die allgemeine Hochschulreife', and also, if you took it, the 'Mittlere Reife' - in each case listing each subject and the mark you received for each subject.

If your qualification was awarded by a particular organisation, enter that organisation's name into the 'awarding body' section - i don't think this applies to you as your get your Schulabschlusse in Germany from your individual schools, don't you? In the UK there are several awarding bodies: AQA, Edexcel, OCR, CCEA - i don't think you have this in Germany.

The course codes.

A100 is for the 5-6year course leading to the MBBS, MBChB (both are essentially the same; one is in English, the other Latin). MSci is a masters qualification, which you do after attaining a BSc.

A104 is a 6yr course and includes a foundation year in sciences. The A104 is for those who didn't study science/maths A-levels.

A106 is the 'second MB' entry route; this is open to graduates only.

Because you plan on transferring to a German medical school, i would think the A104 would be the best course, seeing as the A100 is integrated (there is no clear distinction between pre-clinical and clinical, excluding at St. Andrews, where the A100 leads to a BSc in Medical Sciences). Dundee and Edinburgh are the only Scottish Unis that offer the 1st MB 'pre-medical' course.

My best advice to you would to telephone/write to/email the individual universities you wish to apply to! They can be very helpful!

Remember, the deadline for medical applications is the 15th October 2004, so you have plenty of time!

[Sarah0201]

Thanks, that helped a lot. Just one more question: I saw at the ucas website that the application have to be turned in until the 15th of october 2003, otherwise there are treated a late. They also mentioned that until the 30th june you can still send them. Do you think I have a chance for the entry 2004( reagarding my late application) Because I don't really wanna wait one more year and besides the application for 2005 is not available yet or?

Thanks

Sarah

[billster]

Hiya Sarah!

You're correct in saying that the 2004 application cycle has not yet finished; however, the deadline is only extended till March, and this is ONLY for Route B (Art and Design) courses. The deadline for applications to medical schools is 15th Oct. You will need to apply 15th Oct 2004, for 2005 entry, i'm afraid. You can send off your UCAS application for 2005 entry beginning mid-September '04! Processing of 2004-entry Ucas forms does not finish till late August.

Is there a particular reason you're so keen to study in Scotland? It would probably be easier and less stressful for you if you studied at a German institute, and as part of your course or on the ERASMUS programme, did part of your studies at a British/Scottish institute. But then again, you have nothing to lose by applying! So good luck!

And i would really recommend you call the individual universities too - i've been asking around, and, apparently, some British universities do not accept the Abitur as an entry qualification for A100 courses! So email/phone the universities you're thinking of submitting an application to, and ask them what their entry-requirements policy for German-EU applicants is. Oh, and also, you should talk to your local British Council office for help and advice on applying to UK universities!

http://www.britishcouncil.de/
http://www.educationuk.org/
http://education.guardian.co.uk/high...959146,00.html (helpful tips for writing your personal statement and making your UCAS form shine ;))

All the best!

Bill